Upgrading from a 150cc commutter. Please help.

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Hi friends,

I am new to this forum and posting my first ever query. Please find it below.

I own a Honda Unicorn 150 cc 2013 model. The bike had done completed 24,780 km. A few months back, when I was riding my bike, a weird noise started coming from the engine and the bike stopped. I was not able to start the bike again. When I approached the nearby mechanic, he was also not able to start the bike. He said that there is no compression in the kickstarter. Therefore we push started the bike and I was shocked to see white smoke coming out of the exhaust and the bike sounded like an auto rickshaw. He said that the problem is with the engine and advised me to take the bike to service centre immediately. The service centre guys administered the bike and told me that the piston got jammed due to low engine oil level. They told me that the engine overhaul is to be done. The overhaul is done at 13k rupees. I was advised not to exceed 45 km/hr for the first 5000 km, change the engine oil every 2000 km and should not ride beyond 4000 RPM. I am now completely dissatisfied with the bike performance as it is not the same as it used to be. I can feel so much lag in the engine response. It is not revving smoothly. I think its due to new engine parts, correct me if I am wrong. It used to rev up to 5000 to 6000 RPM even at the slightest twist of throttle. But now with the same amount of twist it is reaching only till 3000 to 4000 RPM. I have ridden 1000 km post engine overhaul. But still not finding any improvement in performance but getting good mileage though. So I am planning to sell my bike and upgrade to a higher cc bike. I have shortlisted three bikes.

1. Yamaha FZ 25.

2. Apache RTR 200 4V.

3. Pulsar NS 200.

But I am unable to choose between these three bikes. 80% of my ride will be within the city. Highway rides and touring is occasional.

My requirements are (Sorry if I am asking for too much):

1. Mileage of 35+ within the city. 40+ would be great. Mileage should be consistent.
2. Soft suspension(I have low back pain issues:apologetic:) and comfortable riding posture.
3. Low maintenance and low service costs.(very important).
4. Robust engine with a long engine life.(I am planning to keep the new bike for long term for another 6-8 years minimum)
5. Better city handling.(Easy flickability)
6. Excellent pick up and in gear accelerations.
7. Comfortable for long rides.(Even though I ride mostly within city, I should be able to tour long distance if I want to)
8. Pillion comfort.

But many are advising me not to sell my bike as it is technically a new bike now. I am very confused whether to keep my bike for some more time or to upgrade. Because I hate riding a 150 cc bike at 45 kmph. And also I lost trust towards Honda I had for them for years because of my bike's engine failure that too at 25000 kms :mad:.

Kindly provide me your suggestions if I have to keep my bike for some more time or to upgrade. If there are any other bikes that would meet my requirements, kindly let me know that also. Please help.

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CBR 250 R: Prices announced

March 18, 2018, 9:47 am

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Honda has announced the price for 2018 CBR 250 R. It will be Rs. 1.63 lakh for non ABS version and Rs. 1.93 lakh for ABS version. There will be 4 colours.

The quarter-litre bike was taken off the shelves when the BS-IV emission norms kicked in. Now, with the 2018 model, it is finally compliant with the emissions standards.









While it remains mechanically unchanged from before, the bike now boasts an all-LED headlight unit that adds to its visual appeal. The 2018 CBR 250R gets redesigned graphics and is now available in four colours – grey-orange, grey-green, yellow and red. The Honda offering continues to be powered by the 249.6cc, single-cylinder, liquid-cooled motor which produces 26.5hp and 22.9Nm of torque. Output figures remain similar to the BS-III engine and the motor will be paired to the same six-speed gearbox as earlier.


Sources: Autocar India, overdrive.
https://www.autocarindia.com/bike-ne...63-lakh-407785

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March 18, 2018, 8:01 pm

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Hey guys my name is Jubin Mathai and I ride a 2017 Bs4 Thunderbird 350. I love bikes and had a crush on Royal Enfields. I had this in my mind that if ever I would buy a bike it has to be a Royal Enfield first and that's how I got the TB350. After getting the bike I started a YouTube channel named MatteBlackRider where I share my experience and other fun stuff around bikes. I really love to connect with fellow bikers and that's how I joined xBHP.
Looking forward to meeting and joining the Delhi team for the coming rides and meetups.

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TVS Apache RTR 1604V - First Impression

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It has been 35 years since TVS has been participating (and winning consistently) in the Indian motorsports activities. There is a reason why automobile manufacturers participate in motorsports apart from brand building, and that is to incorporate their learning from the intense competition into their production vehicles and to make them faster and better in every aspect. The learning cycle of the manufacturers participating in the motorsports will always be faster (pun intended) than those who stay away from it because they have no option but to keep innovating and to make their machines better than their competition. Testimony to the above is the TVS Apache RTR 1604V, which TVS says is based on their 8 National Racing Championship winning machine, the TVS Apache RTR 165 GP. The bike was launched recently and we got to ride it at the TVS Hosur plant. Here’s our first impression.

Text: Sunil Gupta
Photos: Mohit Gena






First thing first, there are 3 different variants of the new Apache RTR 1604V - The Fi version with front and rear disc brakes as standard, the carb version with front disc and rear drum brakes, and the carb version with front and rear disc brakes. Also the carb variant with drum brakes comes fitted with 110/80 rear tyre, while the other variants have a fatter 130/70 tyre at the rear.


There are 3 color options available – RR Red, Racing Black, & Racing Blue.


Expectedly, the 160 4V looks very similar to the Apache RTR 200 4V. The bikini fairing from the previous Apache 160 has gone and the bike adorns a sharper headlight upfront with twin LED DRLs and a muscular looking 12 L tank with tank shrouds and an offset fuel lid. The tail also looks sharper. There are new graphics on the new bike with elements like a chequered flag. The new 3D running horse emblem first seen on the RR310 also finds its way onto the Apache RTR 1604V. There is a fully digital instrument cluster sitting on top as well displaying a plethora of information to the rider, including speedometer, tachometer, 2 trip meters, fuel gauge, gear shift indicator, top speed recorder, gear position indicator, clock, and a lap timer.






































The instrument cluster on the carb version has yellow backlight and misses the gear position indicator as well as the lap timer. The one on the Fi variant has white backlight and is ready for TVS’s Bluetooth connect feature as well (similar to what we saw on the TVS NTorq 125 scooter) whenever TVS upgrades this machine. The new bike also has the dual chamber exhaust seen on the 200 4V. The overall fit and finish and dual-tone glossy paint quality is absolutely top class and reminded me of the paint on the TVS Apache RR310.





The seat on the new bike is a single-piece unit which felt sufficiently comfortable and wide enough to accommodate riders with large body frames. The handlebar now is a flat one-piece unit instead of the clip-on used in the outgoing model and the resultant ergonomics are spot on. The rider sits pretty comfortably yet looks sporty and aggressive without looking too commuterish.





Pricing starts at INR 81,490 ex-showroom Delhi for the base carb/drum variant. The carb/disc variant is available at INR 84,490 ex-showroom Delhi, and the top variant, Fi with disc is available at INR 89,990 ex-showroom Delhi.


Talking about the powertrain, the Apache 160 RTR 4V is fitted with a 159.7 cc, single cylinder, 4-stroke, 4-valve engine that is mated to a 5-speed gearbox and is available in both carb and Fi variants. The Fi variant makes about 16.8 PS at 8000 RPM and the carb version makes 16.5 PS at 8000 RPM. Peak torque remains at 14.8 Nm at 6500 RPM for both the variants. This makes the Apache RTR 4V the most powerful 160 cc motorcycle in the market today.





I rode both the Fi & carbureted variants in quick succession and came back pretty impressed. The engine smoothness and refinement is apparent as soon as you thumb the starter. It feels quicker off the mark and the power is delivered in a very linear fashion. The engine remains punchy and smooth until it reaches very high revs where it begins to show a little bit of vibrations in the footpeg, but it is not a deal breaker. The Fi variant expectedly has crisper throttle response.


TVS claims a top of 114 kmph and I was able to hit that mark repeatedly on the straights of TVS test track before running out of space to go faster. The bike could definitely do a little more than that, around 120 kmph easily on a longer stretch of road. It feels flickable and easy to maneuver but shows its true racing colors when leaned into a corner. There’s only one turn at the TVS track. It is a never-ending type right hander loop where I’ve ridden various TVS bikes during media rides.














The chassis of the Apache RTR 160 4V, which comes directly from the Apache RTR 165 GP keeps the bike rock steady and gives so much confidence that the speeds I was able to carry throughout that turn surprised me. And that right hander loop is bumpy too, which makes you go even more cautiously. But this time, things were different. I could feel the bumps, but they were not enough to shake my confidence while fully leaned in.


A big credit also goes to the suspension setup (rear monoshock & conventional telescopic at the front) which works like a charm with this chassis. Cornering grip from the tyres was also spot on. The braking job is taken care of by 270 mm petal disc up front and the 200 mm petal disc at the rear (133 mm drum), which felt sufficient, but the front brakes felt a bit on the softer side to me. And this was the only negative point that I could think of in this bike.




Conclusion: The TVS Apache RTR 160 4V is a worthy new entrant in the TVS Apache lineage, which has kept the Indian motorcycle enthusiasts happy for more than a decade now. The changes and upgrades in this bike are quite prominent and the new Apache RTR 160 is a much better package overall and will give its competitors a run for their money. It is powerful and has loads of low and mid range torque and the best part is the way it handles. You get the handling of a proper track tool in a street bike, nothing less! And it is a big deal! It is priced quite reasonably and there are options available to match your pocket and needs. So if you are planning to buy a 150-160 cc sports-commuter bike, head out to your nearest showroom and take a test ride before buying any other bike.

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@ Mods : Kindly move the thread to the relative section if required.

To everyone out here who owns 2017 DUKE 390,

We, the Mumbai based Duke 390 17’ owners have started this thread to protest against KTM for selling us a unfinished and incomplete product in the form of 2017 D390.

I will first list out all the common issues faced and then I will explain how we are planning to take it ahead with KTM.

The issues are listed below with the status of KTM on the same :

1. RPM shoots up to 3.5K during startup, settles down, again shoots up abruptly : No permanent solution by KTM

KTM says they need to open the engine and then find out the root cause of this issue. And no its not during cold starts that this happens. It happens anytime. Our debate is, why a new engine which hasn’t been even run for 10k kms needs to be opened? We will not allow this as KTM doesn’t have any firm solution on this issue. They are using our bikes as R&D bikes and using us as beta testers.

2. Coolant mixing with Engine oil : No permanent solution
This issue is a major fault in the assembly of the engine. This is not limited to one or two bikes, many users have posted this and KTM works on it silently by opening the engine in the SVCs and try to fix it in an uncontrolled environment.

3. Engine kills itself while in motion : No permanent solution
KTM doesn’t have a firm solution for this. They managed to solve issue in some bikes by replacing the accelerator/engine kill switch assembly. But I would like to add more. I was riding on a highway on first lane at 90kmph. Suddenly the bike turned off and engine kill ON message popped up on the TFT. By gods grace, I was able to control the bike and thankfully saved myselves from getting rear ended by oncoming vehicle.

This is a life threatening issue and KTM haven’t even announced a countrywide recall to fix this issue. Lets say they managed to fix it temporarily by changing accelerator assembly, but how do they guarantee that this thing would not happen to the new assembly? Hardly even 10 months and below 10k kms this assembly has created issues in most of the bikes, there is no guarantee that the new one will work flawlessly. KTM is playing with our lives.

4. TFT consoles turns OFF abruptly while riding: No permanent solution
KTM has initially replaced TFT consoles for some users, but when they got to know that the issue is in all the bikes, they stopped giving TFT replacement even when under warranty. This is not acceptable. TFT costs as much as 20k INR and if issues persists, after 2 years we all D390 users will be milching cows for KTM.

5. Colour ghosting seen in RPM shift band on TFT : No permanent solution
After a few softwares updates, still this issue is present for many users and remains unsolved. People have been complaining but KTM isn’t responding with a permanent solution. Just a software update is needed and still hasn’t been fix after almost an year after launch.

6.Bike stalls while stopping at signal or when picking up from 1st gear : No permanent solution
Now people who don’t own this bike might probably say that we don’t know how to pickup bikes from 1^st gear, but that’s not the case here. Most of the users have faced this issue repeatedly.

7. Engine kills itself when idling : No permanent solution
Whenever we start a bike, we let it idle for warming up before moving. This bike suddenly kills off the engine during warming up. KTM doesn’t have any solution

8. Lights stay ON after key removal : No permanent solution
A few people have even reported that lights stay ON even after removing the ignition key. KTM doesn’t have any answers as yet

9. Bluetooth connectivity of TFT with phone : No permanent solution
There have been several software updates released by KTM for fixing this issue and to our surprise they have even failed in fixing a software bug. I think fixing a hardware issue is a farcry as far as KTM is concerned.

10. Fog/Moisture/water inside TFT console, Lights and indicators : No permanent solution
KTM will blame this on some climate conditions, entry of rain water and all reasons. But if a particular part is made to be protected from water, water shall not seep in, in any case whatsoever. Why is even water entering the TFT console? Do we allow mobile manufacturers to allow water/moisture to go inside a mobile screen? No we don’t. Similarly we will not tolerate this from KTM too.

We need replacement of TFT consoles immediately.

11.Headlamp unit vibration : No permanent solution
Byfar the most innovating thing that KTM has suggested its service people to do, is to add a spring and washer inside the main screw that holds the HLU in place. Kudos to them, but they haven’t managed to suppress the vibration by 1%. Issues is still persistent and annoying. Need replacement of HLU, but as we know it will cost them a bomb to do a recall, they are hesitant to replace it.

12.Throttle getting stuck : No permanent solution
This is again a thing which is a part of the accelerator assembly. For me, this was replaced twice already in a span of 10months. The problem might arise abruptly again. Throttle gets stuck in traffic also and the bike revs till will forcefully decrease the throttle. Imagine you let go of the clutch in this situation, you will rear end someone for sure

13. Sprocket kit durability : Partial Solution : Replace
Imagine changing a 3k chain sprocket set every 8-9 k kms that too with sane riding and maintanence with proper chain clean and chain lube after every 500kms. The chain sprocket set provided in this bike is nothing but pure Bajaj quality. Its not even worth to cleaning and lubing. KTM says replace after every 8k kms. They should see the competition. We says bike is made locally so its cheap, but at the same time, we should not forget that KTM is using cheap parts for that cost cutting.

14. Snatchy throttle response : No solution
Now we know that it’s the way this bike is, but then whats the use of RBW if the throttle response at low rpms hasn’t improved compared to old gen duke 390s. We leave this upto KTM how to manage this issue.

15. Colour fading on levers and chassis : No solution
KTM has used substandard paint quality on the new duke 390 and its evident from the fact that even before one year the paint has started feeling off from different placed on the bike. Re-paint it or replace the faded parts is the solution, but KTM is silent.

16. Wordings near keyhole have faded : No permanent solution
Wordings like Ignition ON/OFF, Lock have faded away within an year says a lot about what KTM is giving to its customers.

17. Screeching sound from front brakes : No permanent solution
This issue has been reported since day1 and KTM doesn’t have any firm solution on this. They blame it on the dust. To some extent they are right, but we haven’t seen it happening on most bikes using disc brakes.

18. Random errors on TFT ( Low oil pressure, ABS failure, ECU failure) : No permanent solution
Some error or another pops up out of nowhere on TFT console. KTM tried it via software updates but haven’t be able to fix it on all the bikes. Still random errors keep popping up.

19. Randomly clutch slips and gear lever stays down while downshifting : No solution
This was reported right from day one and still this issue persists. KTM hasn’t done anything to address this issue.

20. Indicator start automatically during rainy season: No permanent solution
KTM didn’t bother to solve this as they blame it on rains. God bless us and save us from KTMs policies.


All the above issues as said are been faced by most of the 2017 batch owners. We have repeatedly followed up with KTM & area service managers on emails and calls, but we haven’t got any response. With this quality we should rather say that the bike is sold for more than what its worth for.

Seems KTM has adopted a policy in which rather than announcing a countrywide recall they are resorting to solve issues of some individuals by calling them individually. But I am sure that those individuals are the people who are not much well versed with the technicalities or the extent of issues their bike has. The area service managers try to sell their stories of how the problem arises and all, but we wont be fooled by this strategy.

We have bought a bike by our hard earned money and we didn’t pay to get only more issues and less bike. We have been visiting service centres after every alternate week for resolutions but we come back empty handed wasting our energy, time and fuel. None of which KTM is even bothered of. Let alone our problems, they aren’t even bothered to solve the issues they have sold to us in the form of 2017 duke 390.

Our demands are crystal clear :

1. Need atleast 2 years extended warranty for all the 2017 manufactured D390s
2. Need replacement of parts with known issues immediately, but with a written agreement that the parts wont fail within a given timeline.
3. Need a deadline date to fix the issues we have. “We will do it” wont be accepted. Rather it should read as “ We will do it on or before ”. All in written
4. For engine oil and coolant mix cases, a detailed RCA report to be submitted with details in how and why the coolant mixes with engine oil. If it’s a manufacturing defect, (ofcourse it is) shall be replaced with a new engine.

We Mumbai lads have decided to draft a letter directed towards KTM with all the issues and demands. It will be signed by all owners. This letter will then be distributed to all SVCs and we will make banners asking KTM to meet our demands and exposing why KTM needs to announce an official recall. We will make sure we are heard across the nation. But only Mumbai guys cannot do it alone. We need our brothers from other cities to join us in this. Lets together show that a manufacturer cannot run away by selling bad quality product to us without compensating.

We will make sure we stand with our banners in front of KTM service centres and showrooms.

NOTE : This protest shall be silent. Violence is prohibited. No property must be damaged during this protest.

Requesting XBHP mods, youtube vloggers, Social media fames to come forward and share this as much as possible. If we don’t do this now, the Indian manufacturers will never understand the meaning of a QUALITY product. We need to change the mindset. They need to learn from the Japs.

Draft letters can be emailed to people from other cities. You can contact me via email route (chiragsthakur@gmail.com)


Regards,

KTM Mumbai owners

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1. Budget: Upto 2Lakh
2. Age: 26
3. Height: 5'8"
4. Weight: 75
5. Intended usage: Commute from village to nearby town + occasional short trips (~300 km)
6. Fuel Efficiency requirement (approx., if any): 35+(preferably 40)
7. City & Highway percentage usage: Mixed (more highways though)
8. Approximate Monthly running : Under 500km barring trips
9. City / Town /Village of residence: Orissa (posted as doctor in remote village)

My first bike was Yamaha FZ-S and it has served me well for 7 years. I'm very lazy and mainly chose Yamaha because I was told it was low maintenance. It's served me well but now it's showing its age. I'd like to buy a new cruiser. I've shortlisted Bajaj Avenger but can't decide between Street or Cruise version. Love the Cruise one but it lacks the tubeless tires. So do I

1. Buy street version, replace handlebar, windshield and backrest with the Cruise version (4.5k cost)
2. Buy Cruise version, replace the wheels and tires with the street (don't know the cost but definitely north of 15k)
3. Buy Cruise and be content with the tubed tires (and invoke God before journey so I don't get a puncture on highway with no shops to fix it.:biggrin:)


Please advise. I'm waiting for the TVS Zeppelin launch. Will keep Avenger for 2 yrs and then sell. Hopefully a Bajaj will run for 2 years at least.

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March 20, 2018, 8:08 am

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I recently bought ns200 around 10 days back. Today I did rode for 20 kms continuously , max speed 55 kmph. After 20 km stretch I stopped for 15min. After the short break when I started the bike it refused to start. It was acting like it has no fuel. When I checked more than half tank was available. Then after several tries it started but wasn't moving. When I gave accelerator it was jerking (like when there is very less fuel), this happened in all the gears. No pickup at all. Any idea what might be the issue. How can I fix it and avoid in future.

1200 kilometers on my 16 year old Kawa Bajaj Boxer - Insanity?

March 19, 2018, 10:17 am

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So, as the title states, I'm planning to visit Chennai from my place (Kochi), an approximate 1200kms trip on my 16 year old Kawasaki Bajaj Boxer CT. I'm planning to leave on 28 night and return by 1st of April. My last actual roadtrip was a 500km one from my place to Coimbatore last year in May, which actually has a fun story to it, done on, you guessed it right, the boxer. I hit the road at 7 am in the morning and made it there very relaxed, touching 70 KMPH at the most. Reached there by almost 11.30 (messed up traffic in Coimbatore city and the one-way routes confused me, being a mallu:p) I reached my friend's apartment in the city and we left for some places in and around Coimbatore and Palakkad. Dropped her off at 5 p.m. in the evening and left in a hurry as i knew i was gonna be late. Mind you, I hadn't told my mom (I know it was a bad move on my part, but then she never liked me riding far, although i tld her as soon as i got home. P.S. you should've seen the loook on her face as I had told her that i was going to fort kochi with my friends. She still hates my friends for that,JK). I reached home by almost 8, and I tell you, there was some insane amount of irresponsible riding involved. My headlight was a mere lantern, the Thrissur-Ernakulam streach was as bad as it could get and it was pitch dark, with no street lights. Oh and no dividers on the so called National Highway either. My point being, my Boxer hasn't failed me yet and this was the worst scenario I ever underwent.
So, Do my fellow XBHPians have any advice for me as I undertake this silly roadtrip, responsibly, this time?

Cheers and Love,
Nair

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Stickiest Tyres Ever Made for Bajaj CT100B!

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Hey guys please suggest the stickiest(softest compound) tires available for the following sizes;


•Front – 2.75 * 17
•Rear – 3.00 * 17


I wouldn't mind a small up-size for the sake of better grip, tire life is not a concern(in fact lower the better), only grip matters.


Thanks in advance. :o

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Hello bikers,
Bike-CBZ EXTREME (2008 Model),Total Run 55000km.
Engine Oil Using - Elf motorsport SAE10-40
Company fitted Tyres-Front MRF NYLOGRIP ZAPPER FS, 2.75-18, 42P
REAR- MRF NYLOGRIP ZAPPER Y, 100/90, 56P.
My bike runs daily 20km at highway(sticking at7000rpm 8 minutes) and city drive 10km.
I used to have a couple of long drives per year around 1200km/trip.
Fuel efficiency 42kmpl. Tyre pressure F25,R41.
Now I want to change the tyres with tubeless tyres. And change engine oil too.
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Expecting some experts advice.
Thanks and regards,
Mrityunjoy Chatterjee.

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I was looking to do the same with calipers and stuff the ktm service guys said the abs sensors will be cut off if you do so if anyone has done it please let me know.

Track day updates

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Triumph Tiger 800 series 2018 launched starting at 11.76 Lakhs

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Triumph Motorcycles India has launched the all new Tiger XCX and XR family of motorcycles. The Tiger is one of the most critically acclaimed motorcycles from the stable of Triumph. Triumph first unveiled the new Tiger line-up at the EICMA 2017. The new Tiger XR is priced at 11.76 Lakhs whereas the Tiger XRx is priced at 13.13 Lakhs. The more premium Tiger XCx will retail at 13.76 Lakhs.



Following are the highlights in the slew of changes that the new Tigers get (variable according to the model):

5” adjustable TFT instruments	Full colour, clear instrumentation provides precise rider information with intuitive operation
New All-LED Lightning	Offering improved visibility and enhanced style, LED signature lighting creates clear views in front and behind
Switchcubes and five-way joystick	New ergonomically designed handlebar switch cubes and joystick are intuitive and comfortable to operate
Illuminated backlit buttons	Handlebar mounted switchcube buttons are now illuminated, allowing for easier night-time use
“Off-Road Pro” riding mode	Delivering the most focused off-road set up ever, advanced riders can opt to turn systems off and be in total control
Brembo front brakes	Brembo front brakes deliver reliable, premium capability in all Conditions
Five-way adjustable wind screen and aero diffusers	Single hand adjustable windscreen, delivering enhanced wind protection for category leading rider aero comfort
Updated Cruise Control	Accessed easily through the left hand switchcube, the simple-to-use, single button cruise control helps reduce rider fatigue

Mr. Vimal Sumbly, Managing Director, Triumph Motorcycles India Pvt. Ltd. commented “To deliver the best of Triumph, we here have been working on our engineering and technology to upgrade the capability of the Tiger 800 line-up for versatility on and off-road. These developments compliment the Tiger's agility, its easy riding style, as well as its existing distinctive Tiger poise - the new 800 line-up is built for maximum adventure, maximum dominance.”

Mr Sumbly further added - “Triumph as a brand is recognised not just for its iconic ancestry but also for the uncompromised premium riding experience that it offers. This combination gives the brand a sure-fire edge in its category and the Tiger range is here to do the same. “





The following is a feature comparison between the three Tigers:

NEW FEATURES	Tiger 800 XCx	Tiger 800 XRX	Tiger 800 XR
5" TFT adjustable instruments	●	●
Handlebar switch cubes and 5-way joystick control	●	●
LED daytime running headlight	●	●
Off-Road Pro riding mode	●
Brembo front brakes	●	●
LED daytime running lights	●	●
LED indicators	●	●
Standard Indicators			●
5-way adjustable windscreen	●	●
Cast Wheels		●	●
Lighter weight silencer	●	●	●
CORE FEATURES	Tiger 800 XCx	Tiger 800 XRX	Tiger 800 XR
Four riding modes		●
Five riding modes	●
Distinctive 800cc three-cylinder engine with ride-by-wire electronic throttle control	●	●	●
Standard rider and pillion seats			●
Switchable ABS and traction control	●	●	●
Tailored ergonomics - adjustable seat height and handlebar position	●	●	●
On-board computer	●	●	●
Immobiliser	●	●	●
Premium WP adjustable front and rear suspension	●
Cruise control	●	●
Heated grips	●	●
Hand guards	●	●
Comfort rider and pillion seats	●	●
Aluminium sump guard	●
Engine protection bars	●
Radiator guard (plastic)	●	●
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Yamaha szr is giving me hard time please help

March 20, 2018, 11:46 pm

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Hello Everyone,
I am very new to this forum and not really a technically knowledgable individual. So kindly ignore if anything you find silly. I own a Yamaha SZR 2011 model with 65k KM so far. Last month in Feb I met with an accident (needless to say the guy was drunk) and my bike got some serious damage. The Soccer rods, handles etc were bent with front mudguard broken into pieces. It took a push to start the bike again and reach back home. However my bike started giving me this sound just like those superbikes with big silencer. I thought it was normal but then suddenly one day it turned into rattling sound as if a metal ball is being dropped on the floor. I took it to a mechanic on the way and he charged me 3k bucks for that saying the engine to be repaired. My bike worked fine that day of repairing but yet again the issue is coming up in the same way. There is no pick up, it feels as if it's taking loads of pressure to move and as if the tyres are deflated. Is there anything I should do by myself? Shall I go to the service centre or again give it to a mechanic? The experience with the Service Centre in Kirti Nagar Delhi haven't been good ever. Every time I received my bike with some or the other part broken. SO very confused.

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March 21, 2018, 3:38 am

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Hello ,
I need some recommendation on changing of engine oil for my hh cbz extreme 2008 model.
Company recommends 10w30. I used it initially for 3500km. It was very good,smooth acceleration in city drive, But for highway run where i stick at high rpm (atleat7000rpm) for a long time span (minimum 5-8minutes),the engine roars unusually high with some tappet sounds. Consulting with my mechanic he recomends 20w40. That resulted low noise but smooth acceleration was not gained. I drained that one after 200km and currently using 10w40 from elf. This one is giving moderate result than those. But not so satisfactory. It feels like that 7000rpm is its optimum efficiency 😋. Can a little bit higher viscous oil manage this issue? Can I use 10w50. I drive in highway about90%of my riding.
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Thanks and regards,
Mrityunjoy Chatterjee.

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March 21, 2018, 4:20 am

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I have been a silent reader for about two years and I recently joined the xBhp club.
I have made a few posts here and there since joining but didn't introduce myself as I wanted to do it properly.
So, here it goes.

Hi fellow riders
This is Ankit, from Sitamarhi (Bihar). Mine is a quaint little town next to the Nepal border.
I learned to ride on my father's Narmada 150 scooter back in 2004.
Since I was only 16 years old, I wasn't allowed to ride anywhere on it but there were times I would steal the

keys and take it out for a spin at 5 or 6 in the morning, I knew already then that I was hooked.
My next ride was my brother's hero Honda Joy. A no-nonsense 100 cc commuter on which I polished my riding skills for the next two year,
the usual grocery runs and meeting friends after the school.

Fast forward to '06 and I had just acquired my driving license and was about to buy my first bike.
Needless to say the feeling can't be described by words, it took me a solid 3 months to convince my parents to buy me a bike and when they finally agreed I couldn't sleep the whole night, I was just ecstatic!

Now, back in '06, you didn't have a lot of options when it came to bikes, pulsar 180 and Karizma were the biggest, fastest bikes you could buy if memory serves me right.
Also, internet was a luxury back then (Rs. 495 for 1GB of 2G data on AirTel) so researching bikes wasn't an option either, all the information came from the TV ads.
Pulsar 180 was the automatic choice as Karizma was a little too expensive. I didn't consider the 1st Gen Apache as it was too small for me, and still is.

D-Day arrives, I go with my brother to the Bajaj showroom to enquire about the P180, and sadly the guy didn't have a single 180 at his showroom. He asked me to checkout the P150 and the Avenger, but I declined as P150 was the go-to performance bike at that time and almost everyone had one. Also, totally hated the silver alloys on the P150.

Anyway, I leave the Bajaj showroom with a heavy heart and a long face when my brother asks me to checkout other bikes from other manufacturers.
The kind of guy I was and I am, I instantly loathed the idea as I wasn't even considering any other bike.
We go to this little Yamaha showroom which I didn't even know existed in my town, and I see this silver-yellow Yamaha Gladiator.
I had seen the ads for this bike but I thought that since the bike was just 125cc, it would have a smaller street presence, but God, how wrong I was!!

I also learned that day that bikes in advertisements look way smaller than in flesh.

She was an absolute beauty! The colour scheme was fantastic, the tank was big, as big as a 150cc bike and a pretty long wheelbase.
I was smitten, didn't want the P180 anymore, bought the bike then and there for 46k ex-showoom.
My parents were happy because I saved them about 15-20k on the bike by not going for the P180 and I was grinning ear to ear as it was a YAMAHA with a colour scheme that made it stand out of the crowd.


]I did my first wheelie on this bike the next morning, fell right on my ass, bike slid from under me, got a nasty cut on the left leg, thankfully the bike didn't have any scratches.

I rode this bike extensively till 2011, clocked about 75-80k on the ODO, did some highway runs as well, and fell in love with touring.

Come 2011, I wanted an upgrade and again, I was short on options. Ninja 250 was too expensive and the CBR 250 never appealed to me, ever.
I had my mind set on the Karizma ZMR as it made perfect sense for my needs, it had comfortable seating position with a powerful enough engine for highways.
I had taken a quote for the black ZMR from my local Hero Honda dealer and paid an advance, I was just waiting on the bike to arrive.

This one day, while I was still waiting on the ZMR, I passed by the Yamaha Showroom and I saw this limited edition yellow-black Yamaha R15 sitting in its full glory.
One look at the bike and suddenly the ZMR started to look ugly in comparison, all the logic went out the window and I knew, I want this bike.
Screw the comfortable seating position, I want this bike!!


The guys at Hero Honda were nice enough to return me the booking amount for the ZMR and I brought this baby home the very next day.

Now this was the bike that defined me as a biker, I went from being a squid to a proper biker with this baby, never dropped her once in almost 7 years.
Later in 2012, when I moved to New Delhi, I brought the bike with me and did frequent long distance rides on this one.

Now the R15 is a great bike, but it's seriously under-powered for highway use, sustained 110kmph runs feel like putting a lot of stress on the engine, so when Bajaj launched the Dominar, I felt all my prayers were answered.
I absolutely fell in love with how the bike looked, massive street presence, sinister looking front and 35 bhp of power. The tail section looked like it was borrowed straight from a P150 but I was ready to ignore it as the pros massively outweighed the cons.
But since it was a Bajaj, I thought it was best to wait for a few months and see how it performs in the real world.

Anyway, in December '17, I was all set to buy the Dominar, went to the showroom, took a test ride and it felt kinda boring to be honest.
The bike is awesome, no doubt about it, but I failed to find the connection, the character that makes you love or hate a bike. I told the same to the owner and he asked me to test ride the Duke 390.

Now, I have always hated Dukes, the 200's look and sound like mopeds, they're too flashy for my taste and have smaller dimensions for someone like me (still 6' and 110kg). So coming back, the owner asked me to test ride the Duke 390.

I turn on the bike, and I'm surprised by the deeper exhaust of the 390, and the first time I blip open the throttle on an empty stretch.

HOLY EFFING GOD!!!

In a fraction of a second, It made me feel like a kid again. I was grinning again, ear to ear, it was like I was riding a bike for the first time again!

I knew I wanted this bike, no matter how it looks, how it sounds, I want this bike, I was in love with the raw power.

Told the guy I'd take it, paid him the booking amount, came bake home and the same day, I see this article that the Duke 390 was being launched in white colour in 2018.
I looked at some pics of the white Duke 390 and suddenly, the bike started looking more mature.
I loved the power and now I loved the way it looked too. I called the owner and told him that I'd be taking the 2018 edition white Duke 390 and not the orange one

Fast forward two months, and got the bike delivered on 15th February.



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Sorry if I offended any D200 owners, it's just my personal opinion and the Dukes are a hoot to ride, I just realized it a bit late.
Also, excuse the grammar mistakes I may have made. :)

So, this is me and by biking journey so far, hope to add more bikes and experiences to my life in the coming years.

Ride safe everyone!

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Bajaj Pulsar 200NS Projector LED reviews and issues

March 21, 2018, 6:37 am

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I am planning to install projector led in my 200NS but a bit confused about the battery backup. Will it affect my battery life? or it will cause battery drain for not being used for a week or so?
Also, replacing stock bulb with projector led is done by removing the silver screen, can I replace it back if I am not that much satisfied with projector?

Retro style Headlight for RE Classic 500

March 21, 2018, 9:38 am

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Hello People,

I just did one more mod on my royal enfield, and that's new RETRO HEADLIGHT for my bull.









This is DIY Video

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How do i dispose my old bike

March 21, 2018, 11:46 am

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Hi i have a 2001 model splendor. Which i am not using and rusting away. Unfortunately i am in mumbai and it is a TN registered bike so could not do the FC after 15 years. I just want to dispose of the bike, even if i don't get any money out of it. Is there anybody who will take it for scrap?

Go kart track days

March 21, 2018, 7:48 pm

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When you lack the money or the time to go to a big track like Chennai or Coimbatoire, you can always enjoy yourself at a go kart track (although it'd be best suited to low displacement bikes).

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